Comments on: Gifford http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600 Thu, 09 Oct 2014 15:41:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Larry Leveen http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4640 Larry Leveen Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:49:02 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4640 I''m glad about the name, having shared a wonderful tour with you and John through the National Forest named after the man. It''s obviously a tribute to that wonderous recreational gem that many PNW folks have in their back yard. Funny that more Washingtonians don''t go there (or _know_ it exists!), but all the better for bike touring I say! I never thanked you and John for your great pix and writeups (y''all should search Alex''s blog for ''em), so THANKS! I still cherish those memories, even the challenging dirt climb on the last day, but especially that positively BOMB-ING descent from Crest campground to Carson area. BEST. EVER. Oh yeah, and that bike ;-) : - If the shiftbox is the perfect place for the taillight, then mount it there! Are you getting so caught up in attaching-via-heat that you have forgotten about your old pal glue?! You''ll undoubtedly figure it out, and probably influence scores of others in the process. - It _almost looks_ like internally routed cabling would have worked -- staggered entry/exit of the two cables in the chainstay, and routing _through_ the upper part of the BB shell (assuming that, like my Bushnell, it is highly machined out, providing clearance), since you''ll likely do all your chain tensioning with the BB spindle in the lower half of the EBB shell. From there, into the downtube and out, right near the uppermost DT guide you have. I know that 2-D pix give the illusion that there is more room to work with than there probably is. The last SmugMug pix shows the angling in of the chainstays, which would complicate this idea. Maybe you should just, ya know, whip up a spare frame as proof-of-concept ;-) - Rohloff cable routing is the least lovely aspect of that type of transmission (followed by lack of shifter choice and cost!). If there was ever a system that would benefit from wireless electronic shifting, it''s this one! All in all, you should be proud in your accomplishment. I''m looking forward to more tour adventures with you - perhaps that Redwoods Tour idea? I”m glad about the name, having shared a wonderful tour with you and John through the National Forest named after the man. It’’s obviously a tribute to that wonderous recreational gem that many PNW folks have in their back yard. Funny that more Washingtonians don”t go there (or _know_ it exists!), but all the better for bike touring I say! I never thanked you and John for your great pix and writeups (y”all should search Alex’’s blog for ”em), so THANKS! I still cherish those memories, even the challenging dirt climb on the last day, but especially that positively BOMB-ING descent from Crest campground to Carson area. BEST. EVER.

Oh yeah, and that bike ;-) :

- If the shiftbox is the perfect place for the taillight, then mount it there! Are you getting so caught up in attaching-via-heat that you have forgotten about your old pal glue?! You”ll undoubtedly figure it out, and probably influence scores of others in the process.

- It _almost looks_ like internally routed cabling would have worked — staggered entry/exit of the two cables in the chainstay, and routing _through_ the upper part of the BB shell (assuming that, like my Bushnell, it is highly machined out, providing clearance), since you”ll likely do all your chain tensioning with the BB spindle in the lower half of the EBB shell. From there, into the downtube and out, right near the uppermost DT guide you have. I know that 2-D pix give the illusion that there is more room to work with than there probably is. The last SmugMug pix shows the angling in of the chainstays, which would complicate this idea. Maybe you should just, ya know, whip up a spare frame as proof-of-concept ;-)

- Rohloff cable routing is the least lovely aspect of that type of transmission (followed by lack of shifter choice and cost!). If there was ever a system that would benefit from wireless electronic shifting, it’’s this one!

All in all, you should be proud in your accomplishment. I”m looking forward to more tour adventures with you – perhaps that Redwoods Tour idea?

]]> By: AlexWetmore http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4639 AlexWetmore Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:55:01 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4639 Just to be fair Cary, I did have to put a little spacer in a the seatstay bridge. It could be slightly closer to the tire. I''m still really happy with it for my first try. Just to be fair Cary, I did have to put a little spacer in a the seatstay bridge. It could be slightly closer to the tire.

I”m still really happy with it for my first try.

]]> By: Pat S http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4638 Pat S Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:59:37 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4638 Thought you''d enjoy knowing that at John''s weekly Spokane bike hang tonight, we were passing around an iPhone so that everyone could get a look at Gifford. The whole thing works really well and the first picture against the tree continues to mesmerize me. Man, those are some sweet lines. Fabulous job, Alex. Thought you”d enjoy knowing that at John’’s weekly Spokane bike hang tonight, we were passing around an iPhone so that everyone could get a look at Gifford.

The whole thing works really well and the first picture against the tree continues to mesmerize me. Man, those are some sweet lines. Fabulous job, Alex.

]]> By: Cary Weitzman http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4637 Cary Weitzman Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:23:40 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4637 Holy crap Alex, massive fender-line WIN! This is like the Platonic Ideal of fender-line. Oh yeah, bike''s pretty sweet too. Lovely fork bend. :^) Holy crap Alex, massive fender-line WIN! This is like the Platonic Ideal of fender-line.

Oh yeah, bike’’s pretty sweet too. Lovely fork bend. :^)

]]> By: AlexWetmore http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4636 AlexWetmore Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:22:51 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4636 Derick -- I like having it naked for a little while, but I am going to get it painted a color. It''ll either be a dark green (like British Racing Green) or a pewter color. I haven''t decided on an accent color for the racks yet. Derick — I like having it naked for a little while, but I am going to get it painted a color. It”ll either be a dark green (like British Racing Green) or a pewter color. I haven”t decided on an accent color for the racks yet.

]]> By: derick http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4635 derick Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:23:56 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4635 What color will this bike be? Clear coat would show the care you took in frame build. What color will this bike be? Clear coat would show the care you took in frame build.

]]> By: Brandon Ives http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4634 Brandon Ives Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:15:24 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4634 Like what Alistair said you took a PITA build and did it as a first build. Once the first one is down the others follow easily enough. I think the bent spoke guides are interesting and a nice original touch. Like what Alistair said you took a PITA build and did it as a first build. Once the first one is down the others follow easily enough. I think the bent spoke guides are interesting and a nice original touch.

]]> By: AlexWetmore http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4633 AlexWetmore Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:17:04 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4633 Thanks to everyone for all of the nice compliments. I''ve been riding it around for a couple of days and it really rides and handles very nicely. Gareth -- I wish they made a better one too. Originally I planned on making my own downtube shifter for the Rohloff, but in the end I decided this one would be better when I was riding offroad. Thanks to everyone for all of the nice compliments. I”ve been riding it around for a couple of days and it really rides and handles very nicely.

Gareth — I wish they made a better one too. Originally I planned on making my own downtube shifter for the Rohloff, but in the end I decided this one would be better when I was riding offroad.

]]> By: Apertome http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4632 Apertome Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:40:30 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4632 It''s a real beauty. I love how much attention to detail you''ve put into this, figuring out exactly how you planned to set it up, and making it so. Great work! It’’s a real beauty. I love how much attention to detail you”ve put into this, figuring out exactly how you planned to set it up, and making it so. Great work!

]]> By: Gareth http://alexwetmore.org/archives/600/comment-page-1#comment-4631 Gareth Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:12:48 +0000 /blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2009/12/17/gifford.aspx#comment-4631 A fabulous bike - a thing of beauty - I just wish Rohloff did a (better) shifter for drops A fabulous bike – a thing of beauty – I just wish Rohloff did a (better) shifter for drops

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