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	<title>Comments on: It&#039;s starting to look like a bicycle frame&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4491</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;&#039;ve been enjoying the outside too much, so I haven&#039;&#039;t done much on the frame recently.  I&#039;&#039;ll have some updates when I&#039;&#039;ve finished up the chainstays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8221;ve been enjoying the outside too much, so I haven&#8221;t done much on the frame recently.  I&#8221;ll have some updates when I&#8221;ve finished up the chainstays.</p>
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		<title>By: GarykPatton</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4490</link>
		<dc:creator>GarykPatton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. I think the article is really interesting. I am even interested in reading more. How soon will you update your blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I think the article is really interesting. I am even interested in reading more. How soon will you update your blog?</p>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4489</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy -- the blob of silly putty is silly putty (actually it is plumbing putty).  The Paterak framebuilding book recommended this as a way to keep chatter down.  It doesn&#039;&#039;t hurt, not sure if it helps.

The sleeve reinforces the thin tubing (.5mm at that portion) where the seatpost slot is and keeps it from distorting too much during brazing.  There are a minimum of three brazing operations there (top tube, seat stays, and binder).  Early TIG welded bicycles also used a sleeve, newer ones usually use externally butted tubing that is larger diameter there than in the thin section.  Lugged bicycles have a lug which does the same job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy &#8212; the blob of silly putty is silly putty (actually it is plumbing putty).  The Paterak framebuilding book recommended this as a way to keep chatter down.  It doesn&#8221;t hurt, not sure if it helps.</p>
<p>The sleeve reinforces the thin tubing (.5mm at that portion) where the seatpost slot is and keeps it from distorting too much during brazing.  There are a minimum of three brazing operations there (top tube, seat stays, and binder).  Early TIG welded bicycles also used a sleeve, newer ones usually use externally butted tubing that is larger diameter there than in the thin section.  Lugged bicycles have a lug which does the same job.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wouldnt it look better with a 6 degree sloping top tube?</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Livengood</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Livengood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also -what kind of distortion does the sleeve help avoid? Alignment issues, or seat post fit or ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also -what kind of distortion does the sleeve help avoid? Alignment issues, or seat post fit or ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Livengood</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Livengood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, I am completely not bored by this project. It&#039;&#039;s looking fantastic, thanks for the step-by step updates.  What&#039;&#039;s the blob of silly-putty looking stuff on the mitering setup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, I am completely not bored by this project. It&#8217;&#8217;s looking fantastic, thanks for the step-by step updates.  What&#8217;&#8217;s the blob of silly-putty looking stuff on the mitering setup?</p>
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		<title>By: AlexWetmore</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4485</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexWetmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 03:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry -- More flux is a message that I got on the framebuilders list too.  We&#039;&#039;ll see how I do in that department on the rear triangle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry &#8212; More flux is a message that I got on the framebuilders list too.  We&#8221;ll see how I do in that department on the rear triangle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Wick</title>
		<link>http://alexwetmore.org/archives/581/comment-page-1#comment-4484</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Wick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work Alex! Your miters(copes?) and fillets look great.

Tip: If you flux 3-4&quot; down the tubes you don&#039;&#039;t get the heat discoloration, making clean-up a little easier.

Keep it up, you&#039;&#039;ll have a rideable frame before you know it!
Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work Alex! Your miters(copes?) and fillets look great.</p>
<p>Tip: If you flux 3-4&#8243; down the tubes you don&#8221;t get the heat discoloration, making clean-up a little easier.</p>
<p>Keep it up, you&#8221;ll have a rideable frame before you know it!<br />
Jerry</p>
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